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		<title>By: Bkrealtist</title>
		<link>http://nostrandpark.com/2010/02/17/update-new-hotel-in-crown-heights/comment-page-1/#comment-775</link>
		<dc:creator>Bkrealtist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The recent hotel/motel craze in Brooklyn serves a couple of benefits for builder/developer/owners.

Unlike Condominium and Apartment building developments, Hotel/Motel development offers the most flexible occupancy category.

On the surface tourist clientele would appear obvious, but I have a different take on it.

NYC has a growing movie/film industry that&#039;s found our armory facilities make great sound stages.

Unfortunately, there&#039;s only one armory in full use as a set location year round in Brooklyn on Union Street.

The other locations are used as homeless shelters.  The more options to house the homeless, the more movie production can occur in the Big Apple.

And movie production fees are a boom to the city&#039;s coffers which the Mayor and City Council would like to see growth in employment and locally owned vendors supporting the industry.

(all while surrendering on set employment quotas of local residents to folks from Long Island, New Jersey and Westchester)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The recent hotel/motel craze in Brooklyn serves a couple of benefits for builder/developer/owners.</p>
<p>Unlike Condominium and Apartment building developments, Hotel/Motel development offers the most flexible occupancy category.</p>
<p>On the surface tourist clientele would appear obvious, but I have a different take on it.</p>
<p>NYC has a growing movie/film industry that&#8217;s found our armory facilities make great sound stages.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, there&#8217;s only one armory in full use as a set location year round in Brooklyn on Union Street.</p>
<p>The other locations are used as homeless shelters.  The more options to house the homeless, the more movie production can occur in the Big Apple.</p>
<p>And movie production fees are a boom to the city&#8217;s coffers which the Mayor and City Council would like to see growth in employment and locally owned vendors supporting the industry.</p>
<p>(all while surrendering on set employment quotas of local residents to folks from Long Island, New Jersey and Westchester)</p>
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		<title>By: whynot_31</title>
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		<dc:creator>whynot_31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 02:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a mini, new hotel can survive at the East NY LIRR stop, one can survive at Nostrand.

(yup, they opened one in East NY!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a mini, new hotel can survive at the East NY LIRR stop, one can survive at Nostrand.</p>
<p>(yup, they opened one in East NY!)</p>
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		<title>By: LaurelB</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaurelB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 21:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crazy, huh!?  

Actually, we have it on fairly good authority (though admittedly not from the horses mouth) that the 1311 Pacific Street project is not tied up in the lawsuit drama of the other Hello Living buildings.  

As we understand it, the developer of the other Hello Living buildings, Eli Karp, is indeed part owner of 1311 Pacific, but the investor group that is suing him is not. He has a different partner on that project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crazy, huh!?  </p>
<p>Actually, we have it on fairly good authority (though admittedly not from the horses mouth) that the 1311 Pacific Street project is not tied up in the lawsuit drama of the other Hello Living buildings.  </p>
<p>As we understand it, the developer of the other Hello Living buildings, Eli Karp, is indeed part owner of 1311 Pacific, but the investor group that is suing him is not. He has a different partner on that project.</p>
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		<title>By: shafla</title>
		<link>http://nostrandpark.com/2010/02/17/update-new-hotel-in-crown-heights/comment-page-1/#comment-748</link>
		<dc:creator>shafla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s be glad it&#039;s not the same developer as 1311 Pacific:  http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/13/nyregion/13hello.html?em=&amp;adxnnl=1&amp;adxnnlx=1266167432-FrKzebh8SsF0vEFOsag4kw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be glad it&#8217;s not the same developer as 1311 Pacific:  <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/13/nyregion/13hello.html?em=&#038;adxnnl=1&#038;adxnnlx=1266167432-FrKzebh8SsF0vEFOsag4kw" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/13/nyregion/13hello.html?em=&#038;adxnnl=1&#038;adxnnlx=1266167432-FrKzebh8SsF0vEFOsag4kw</a></p>
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		<title>By: SBQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SBQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Older, Middle Class types I see as visiting family in an area the used to live in or are familiar with.  With that in mind, The Hotel may suit their needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Older, Middle Class types I see as visiting family in an area the used to live in or are familiar with.  With that in mind, The Hotel may suit their needs.</p>
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		<title>By: LaurelB</title>
		<link>http://nostrandpark.com/2010/02/17/update-new-hotel-in-crown-heights/comment-page-1/#comment-744</link>
		<dc:creator>LaurelB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm ... I can see the adventerous tourist from abroad being enamored with Crown Heights, Authentic ... but the deep pocketed or the middle class older type tourist wandering around Nostrand ... I don&#039;t see it.  

I actually just checked out the reviews of the Quality Inn that is located further up at the East NY LIRR station on Atlantic:http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=11558117664942588867&amp;q=quality%2Binn&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;view=feature&amp;mcsrc=detailed_reviews&amp;num=10&amp;start=0&amp;ved=0CGAQuAU&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=U4d9S5mPNI_uMqWMnYAF.  

Most of the commentary is not about the hotel itself, but about the surrounding neighborhood.  Granted, Nostrand Ave is much more visitor friendly than the East NY stop, and of course Crown Heights really has tons of great things to offer to interested travellers, but people are going to have to get over the psychological hurdle of that immediate surrounding area - which feels a bit gritty - in order to get to really exploring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm &#8230; I can see the adventerous tourist from abroad being enamored with Crown Heights, Authentic &#8230; but the deep pocketed or the middle class older type tourist wandering around Nostrand &#8230; I don&#8217;t see it.  </p>
<p>I actually just checked out the reviews of the Quality Inn that is located further up at the East NY LIRR station on Atlantic:<a href="http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=11558117664942588867&#038;q=quality%2Binn&#038;hl=en&#038;gl=us&#038;view=feature&#038;mcsrc=detailed_reviews&#038;num=10&#038;start=0&#038;ved=0CGAQuAU&#038;sa=X&#038;ei=U4d9S5mPNI_uMqWMnYAF" rel="nofollow">http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=11558117664942588867&#038;q=quality%2Binn&#038;hl=en&#038;gl=us&#038;view=feature&#038;mcsrc=detailed_reviews&#038;num=10&#038;start=0&#038;ved=0CGAQuAU&#038;sa=X&#038;ei=U4d9S5mPNI_uMqWMnYAF</a>.  </p>
<p>Most of the commentary is not about the hotel itself, but about the surrounding neighborhood.  Granted, Nostrand Ave is much more visitor friendly than the East NY stop, and of course Crown Heights really has tons of great things to offer to interested travellers, but people are going to have to get over the psychological hurdle of that immediate surrounding area &#8211; which feels a bit gritty &#8211; in order to get to really exploring.</p>
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		<title>By: SBQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SBQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post w/out my iphone typo&#039;s.

I could be wrong, but if you are a tourist who is adventurous enough to stay at that location, you may specifically want the Nostrand Ave flavor.

I specifically envision young, deep pocketed Africans, (Nigerians), West Indians, Europeans, Rasta Culture loving Japanese etc. You can have a feel of “authentic” Brooklyn, yet still be a LIRR ride to AY or the airport train.

Not to mention the Southern, Middle Class Older crowd Coming up North for local Church functions or to visit relatives , but don’t want to crash at the relatives homes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post w/out my iphone typo&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I could be wrong, but if you are a tourist who is adventurous enough to stay at that location, you may specifically want the Nostrand Ave flavor.</p>
<p>I specifically envision young, deep pocketed Africans, (Nigerians), West Indians, Europeans, Rasta Culture loving Japanese etc. You can have a feel of “authentic” Brooklyn, yet still be a LIRR ride to AY or the airport train.</p>
<p>Not to mention the Southern, Middle Class Older crowd Coming up North for local Church functions or to visit relatives , but don’t want to crash at the relatives homes.</p>
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		<title>By: sbq</title>
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		<dc:creator>sbq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could be wrong, but of you are a tourist who is adventurous enough to stay at that location, you may specifically want the Nostrand Ave flavor.

I specifically envision yung, deep pocketed Africans, (Nigerians), West Indians, Europeans, Radta Culture loving Japanese etc.  You can have a feel of &quot;authentic&quot; Brooklyn, yet still be a LIRR ride to AY or the airport train.

Not to mention the Southern, Midfle Class Older crowd Coming up North for local Church functions or to visit relatives , but don&#039;t want to crash at the relatives homes,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could be wrong, but of you are a tourist who is adventurous enough to stay at that location, you may specifically want the Nostrand Ave flavor.</p>
<p>I specifically envision yung, deep pocketed Africans, (Nigerians), West Indians, Europeans, Radta Culture loving Japanese etc.  You can have a feel of &#8220;authentic&#8221; Brooklyn, yet still be a LIRR ride to AY or the airport train.</p>
<p>Not to mention the Southern, Midfle Class Older crowd Coming up North for local Church functions or to visit relatives , but don&#8217;t want to crash at the relatives homes,</p>
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		<title>By: LaurelB</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaurelB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 04:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@davidb - I didn&#039;t even think about the AY spillover.  It&#039;s a really good point.  

@nat - I agree and I think this neighborhood could certainly benefit from tourist dollars.  Why should Manhattan get all the love?  

We have a lot of tourist worthy attractions.  CHNA&#039;s working to make Crown Heights home to the largest historic district in Brooklyn, we have one of the largest Caribbean communities in the United States, and we have the culturally rich Hasidic Lubavitch community (which actually already has a couple of popular tours). 

Nostrand Avenue businesses could definitely be the beneficiaries of the tourist traffic that comes through, however, tourists have to feel comfortable stepping foot on Nostrand.  

Unfortunately, as it currently stands, I can see tourists bypassing the local attractions and keeping their tunnel vision set on Manhattan (or AY as the case may be)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@davidb &#8211; I didn&#8217;t even think about the AY spillover.  It&#8217;s a really good point.  </p>
<p>@nat &#8211; I agree and I think this neighborhood could certainly benefit from tourist dollars.  Why should Manhattan get all the love?  </p>
<p>We have a lot of tourist worthy attractions.  CHNA&#8217;s working to make Crown Heights home to the largest historic district in Brooklyn, we have one of the largest Caribbean communities in the United States, and we have the culturally rich Hasidic Lubavitch community (which actually already has a couple of popular tours). </p>
<p>Nostrand Avenue businesses could definitely be the beneficiaries of the tourist traffic that comes through, however, tourists have to feel comfortable stepping foot on Nostrand.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately, as it currently stands, I can see tourists bypassing the local attractions and keeping their tunnel vision set on Manhattan (or AY as the case may be)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: davidb</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 01:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In hindsight, with AY only one stop away, this may be well positioned property for visitors that want to partake in whatever events happen at the AY arena ( think not only sports but also conventions or large scale conferences)- and then they are only a 5 min LIRR ride away. Not saying that made for the economics, but it certainly enhances the prospects for it to be viable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In hindsight, with AY only one stop away, this may be well positioned property for visitors that want to partake in whatever events happen at the AY arena ( think not only sports but also conventions or large scale conferences)- and then they are only a 5 min LIRR ride away. Not saying that made for the economics, but it certainly enhances the prospects for it to be viable.</p>
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